Pipe Blocker explained by the Creator & owner from ASK. Pest control!
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Pipe Blocker explained by the Creator & owner from ASK. Pest control!
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How did the pipe guard blocker come to be and is this your product or is it something you work? Is it your is it something you work in partnership with Rat Pack for? Is it you're actually? It's my product. Actually your product, yeah. So it's a little company, you've got like a little company yourselves. Is that is that how it works? As pest control sales, that's it. I just run inside my business. I've got a little workshop downstairs in the garage and that's where I make. So, so basically the other shops can sell them and it's just that any shop can sell them if they want to, yeah.
Yeah, they come to me, but I'm trying to keep it to the pest control industry, so I've got to give a big Chateau to Dave Alsink from. Goodman. And Howard, Fantastic. I know a lot of people got the version 1, the basket units now, but I bought out the version 2 and the deluxe version, which are a lot more simpler, simpler to make put together and simpler to use for the person who's going to be using them. Especially because I was thinking, I wasn't thinking about domestic customers really. I was thinking about pest controllers because the way the, the, the industry is going trying to use less pesticides, it's rodenticides or anything like that.
So if there's anything we can reduce that, that's why I've come up with this idea. That that was why you came, was it, was it an idea you thought I could just use it my business or was it an idea for I could sell, I could sell in silver pest controllers as well? Or was it a mixture of both? It was a mixture of both. It was about 12 years ago I came up with the idea. OK. When I worked for the local authority and I did pitch it to Matt Taylor when he worked for Essex, Essex Pest Control Products or something like that and nothing came of that.
So it's only re emerged since I've started my own company up.
So yeah, I was doing it for me more than anything because. There we go people, there we go. It's on the screen now. If you can see if you can see it, I'll. Show you in a minute, but yeah, that's the version 1 model. I got that off the Rat Pack, so that's where I grabbed it from. Yeah, they'll be, they'll be discontinued soon version 2 and the deluxe model out which were a lot easier and simple for the pest controllers to use and to give them another steady income as well. So these things will need cleaning out on a regular basis, especially if you need living.
If you've got trees like I have got trees next to me house, they will get blocked up. So you need to keep on top of them and you can take it to service charge. I do a few services for me customers and for the time you spend doing them and the money you make, it's a no brainer. It's a no brainer. So. So yeah. It's nice. It's something you, you actually make it, you make you make at home. It's it's a. Nice. And I've got another local company involved as well in it. It's just just not just me.
I went and got a contract for a local metal pressing company and I've been doing their pest control for about 3 years. And I just went about six months ago, Seven months ago, I went to delay who actually owns a factory and I said I made one up with a version 2. I said is there any chance you can press these out for me? And she goes, we'll see what we can do for you, Jason. If we get a dime made-up, it's going to cost you thousands, but we've got something, we will have something in our factory that will make it close for you.
So the local company actually. Presses these dyes out for me. So that's the that's the round version.
And they just they just slip into there. It's. Very different to the version I'm looking at on screen that is. That's it, Yeah. And it's a lot simpler.
And then I've got square versions as well. They they stamp out for me and the deluxe square versions, which are a bit smaller in the normal square versions. So I have to have them done as well. So, so yeah. And I'll modify the round ones to go into the round deluxe version. OK. Oh, that's good. That is, don't you're able to help you out. Oh yeah, they've been, they've been fantastic. They, I've got to admit they've every time I put an order in, about a week later, I've had all these things stamped out.
That's. Nice.
It's a bit daunting sometime when you're starting up a new venture because the amount of money you have to play into it to start with. That's why I went to saw Dave L Sink at Rat Pack. I had a trip up to Lincoln, spent the night in Lincoln, met up with Howard at Rat Pack and showed him and they said what a simple device that is, how simple that no one's ever thought of that before. Anything I've seen for things like that in America, they've got a product you've seen it called the Gutter Gate, just opens the Gutter Gate, but that's the only other thing I've seen.
But I don't think they're available here anyway. But these are even simpler.
Does it just slot in? Does it just slot in to the? Yeah, the the deluxe version actually come with fitting instructions. This works just as well for the for the round ones and the square ones exactly the same. So they come with fitting instructions and it gives you the size you have to cut out. OK. So. That's easy enough to do, but the new, the new deluxe wit, he can't get up there. He's not getting up there. Tell you what I like though. You put a poster off someone that was using them. Oh, no, no, sorry.
Not someone uses someone that managed to catch a rat going up on your tail. Yeah, he's good. He's good. They'll let you use it to promote the. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that pest control company is absolutely fantastic. I can't remember his name off here, but he he was a nice man. It's hard to capture a photo like that, isn't it? It. Is there is a few actually on the Internet? OK. Were they going up? And they do travel up drain pipes, rainwater drain pipes, they. Do I can't? Remember, what's the countries?
There was a company, I can't remember who it was, that actually had a video. They set the camera, but it showed you how quickly the rat could have down them. Yeah, I can't remember who it was, but someone you, you see, the rat was straight down. It was, yeah, the old alley just does supply, don't it? Like a rat of the drain poker. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, this is the don't know where the good lights on there or not, but that's the that's the deluxe model. Yeah. This comes in two parts. So you've got two parts of it.
You cut your part out, your, your drain pipe sits in there, your other drain pipe sits there. And the way you clean these out is just by turning them. So that's you just open them up and clean them out. Simple, simple product. Simple product. That's a good product that is. And with these you have to take the drain pipe back apart again. But I do glue these in these metal pieces. But if you. Bit of soapy water to wash them out, or you can bang that out if you want to if it's perfectly back in afterwards and that's going nowhere once the pipes are in place.
So. You get nothing up there. Adam Xbox is is is you just put I've always, I've always used mesh to take the bracket off and fit under the clips. But that is a great bit of kit. He just said he's quite impressive with it. Yeah, yeah. And that's the the square version. Now the only difference between the square version and the round version is you can't squat, you can't twist a square. So. These come with actual front 4 screws on screw there they come off, but these ones have to be fully glued on the inside.
So these are all glued in the inside and that's not going nowhere. There's nothing getting up through that. So yeah. So that's like a compression fit one in there.
That's good. Yeah, it does look good.
Is it is it just Rat Pack that sells them or is there anyone else anywhere else that sells them? You'll have to wait and see. I like that you have to wait and see, but they are. You can't currently get the blockers that are on screen a rat pack, can't you? Yeah, you can get them. They'll be they'll be getting the version twos in and the deluxe version soon hopefully. What was it like, you know, when you were standing on the stand with Dave Helgerson from Rat Pack at the was it the BPCA?
Yeah. Is that what you were doing, showing people the blocker? Yeah, did. You get good feedback off people. Fantastic. Everyone was fantastic on the stand because I actually made Dave up a little stand of where it works itself, the Rat Pack, and I thought I'll make myself 1. So I got it in the shed, put some drain pipe together, put some things together and I was just showing that off on. The stool, yeah. Yeah, it works there. It fits in. Yeah. It's like these, these ones here, you, you actually cut the pipe to fit it in.
A lot of people are asking how how much pipe do you cut? And it's that much, just over a centimetre depends on if the pipe moves down in the ground or not. If the pipe moves down in the ground, you don't have to cut anything out. You can just slot it back in. Well, yeah, they're they're really easy to fit. They're really easy to fit with a vibrating saw, an oscillating saw. Yeah. Yeah, so get yourself a living. You always say though, with a good business you need to solve a problem and there you are, you've solved the problem.
Just a simple problem as well, because when when you see people put in big screws through drain pipes and you think cross above that looks horrible. That looks horrible. Well. Yeah. Especially if you if you go to some posh hoses, they don't want to see screws going through the drain. Pipes. They don't, no. No, yeah. But yeah, they come in various colours, the black, white, white and brown for the circle and the same for the square deluxe models. The the round ones do come off in anthracite, anthracite and grey as well as white, black and brown.
Well.
There's a few colours there as well because obviously different drain pipes are, there's a few different colours in there. So it's good that you've got the different colours, the match, because you have a black, black pipe with a white bottom. I mean, it's only, wouldn't it but. It would. It would, yeah. It would, it would. But yeah, no, it's hopefully after this podcast or when I put it out, you're, you'll see an UPS. You never know, you could see an upsurge in sales for these because it's. Quite lovely.
OK, I will make also make the AI makes little clips, but I, I might actually put out and that do you know the section where of this podcast where you're talking about this product? And I'll put it out as a separate piece as well. I think it's overcompressed. I have been mainly through other podcasts. You're like certain subjects. If someone doesn't want to watch the entire podcast, they can watch a certain section. I need to do it with more of them because I've noticed like when I did the one with Jasmine, she was talking about EFK units and a lot of the misinformation going about when I when I, when I clicked it up, they've done very well, just same sections.
So I will do that for this block pipe blocker and the, and the wasp bit and the yeah, it will be good. That will be. But yes, it's been, it's been good learning about the pipe blocker because I was, I was, I was thinking to myself, I'm not going to ask him before the podcast, but I was thinking it was a, it was a rat pack product and you were just a designer. I got it all wrong. I got it all. Wrong. No, no, I had the I had the gumption to go up and actually see David. I can't, like I say, I can't thank Rat Pack enough for helping me out.
And they're the ones who who gave me the push to go and do it because I've never done nothing like that before. And actually going up to to Lincoln as an experience and walking around the factory, I've always loved mechanical engineering and things like that. So it was good for him to give me a walk around the factory and the powder coating factory as well. Yeah, yeah, you've got a powder coat you want. I actually went under Lincoln. I think that's where I did my course, the RSPH level to award investor management management.
But I didn't go. I've never actually because it was in a hotel. I obviously drove back each day because he's not that far off of me and I never went to the. I never thought about driving up to Rat Pack to have a look round because I'm sure David just showed me around. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Go and have a coffee with him if he's there. Oh, it's a good, it's a good blow. When we when we need baked boxes, anything like that, we give Dave a call and he always sorts us out. Yeah, yeah. He does. He's bent over backwards since I've started my business up because you have to learn how to trust people a lot more.
And because Dave was a new supplier to me, I trust him for the first two or three years, got to know him, got friendly and that's the way we started. And soon as I've made this product, I thought I know where I'm going to try and sell it first. I'm going to give Dave, Dave and Rat Pack the idea, see if they can get me started on it. And they did. And again, can't, can't thank him enough. I'll tell him I'll be messaging Dave tomorrow. You better listen to this podcast. Yeah, yeah. You get mentioned, you better play it in the office.
But just watch it, just just see what happens next on the next section, All right? So just keep an eye out for that. Hopefully it's exciting news for me. Any episode, I'm all light up for it. So. So yeah. It sounds good, but Adam Edwards, I think you're correct. The the video I've seen with the rat going down the pipe was marked marked health from from tornado. That's. It that was. A good. One yeah. Tornado. Yeah. He's right, but it was. But yeah, no exciting things with the with the pipe guard blocker.
Yeah, pipe guard rat blocker. So, yeah, thanks for coming on. Been a conversation. It's it's yeah, it's been interesting. It's been been interesting learning especially about always like things that like you don't expect to talk about and they come up like I didn't expect. But you actually removed the actual next. I thought I'll ask him how he actually does it. So if anyone else is listening to this podcast and they want to try to actually remove it, they've got all the info on how to give. It a no or just or just give me a call.
I don't mind just just find me number. I don't mind talking you through it. It's it's you've got to do it safely. You you a decent full face mask. If nothing else, you you safety first before anything else. It's. True. If you don't feel comfortable in doing it, don't do it. So don't even go nowhere near it. You've got to be comfortable in in that situation. Going up to a nest and a good red light torch. Yeah. Don't go into a loft with a bright white light. Yeah, many. Times I've seen that, yeah, yeah.
Always carry a nice little red torch with you in the loft. Yeah, it's a good voice there. But yeah, thanks for coming on. No, no. Thank you for having me.
And if there we go, Adam Edwards has been watching. Thanks, Jason. Lovely guy. Also, thumbs up. Cheers, Adam. Cheers mate. Thank you. Thanks for watching Adam Jasmine. But yeah, thanks everyone. I just got to give two podcasts a shout out now. Jenny was listening earlier. She probably not now. Different time in America. It is, but she's she's from the Pestogen podcast with Candy. So please check out their podcast. If you want to check out their it's an American style podcast, but it's good. There's also good friends, Jack and Brad from tales from the crawl space 2 point O. Now, if you like podcasts with where they've got funny stories and gory stories and not some of the stories are anonymous.
That is a fun podcast. It can get gory. They can I think Brad has actually stepped over a dead body to get to a job. He was following an ambulance in a certain block he was in and it was the only way of getting past. So he had to do it, you know, but it but it's a it's a very good podcast. They're nice blokes and obviously if you watch the beauties and beasties that they're a good podcast. I'd just like to shout out other people that pensioners and. Support us because before I even started this podcast, I actually had a word with Sean on Nenblot.
So what do you think? Because says I've got five years experience in podcasting for I wasn't that successful, but I didn't had fun doing gaming podcasts, you know, getting video game podcasts and it says I want to do it in pest control. And they were very supportive. They were like, I won't be on the same night as you. I'll try and bring a slightly different twist. I will. Although I do ask questions. Some questions may be similar, but some may be different questions they haven't thought of. But yeah, they were supportive since the start.
They were so and they would. And Sean was the one that helped me get CPD for the podcast, for the beauties and beasties. Not there for pest perspective, sorry, on the British Pest Register because obviously it's his CPD scheme. And I says, I says to him, do you really think it it's worth it as well? People learn stuff and it's all about learning. So as long as when you put it into the scheme, you put what the learning points are for each episode, then it's fine. Because every single podcast you've, I've listened to, you learn something.
And that's the whole point of the podcast. It's learning. And then obviously message to BPCA Scott and asked him, he says, well, they can already do it. They just need to put the name in the podcast in what they learned, how long it was and and you're good to go. Then I've applied for the basis prompt and I've been successful. That took a few weeks to to sort out. But there's 10 codes out there. People go through the previous episodes and you'll see it in a description. You will. But but yeah, thanks for watching everyone.
If you got this, have you got anyone that you'd like to see on this podcast that you'd think will go on the podcast? Because I know I do ask people and I fully, I tell you to them, I won't be offended if you don't want to come on because when you're on the podcast, you are putting yourself out there. So have you got anyone you think would come on the podcast or you'd like to see on one? I'm interested. It's only because of the inmates, gamekeeping sides and all that. Kieran Casper Sampler seen somewhere on the thing on this.
I love to see him on here. IA 100% agree I. Think I'd. Have to bring him. Yeah, or Jason Walden from AIM Pest Control in the Black Country, Denny, Birmingham Way and that way on see that perspective of it or WS Pest Control, something like that as well. But there are a few West Midland pest controllers I know like Tony Adams from First Call Pest Management. He's lovely bloke as well. Kieran Casper, I would love to love to see his intake on this as well. I definitely will get him on because we, I have, I have talked to him about about him coming on, but I reckon I'm going to have to ring his actual mobile because when I ring him on Facebook, he hasn't answered.
But maybe he doesn't know it's me because I've changed my account to Sean will have pest control because too many people are getting my main 1. So I swapped it over to a different 1. So but yes, that is a very good shout. I do want to get him on. So Kieran, you're watching. I want you to come on, get hold of me. I will get hold of you. But yes, I will have a look into the other people and see if they're willing to come on. They may not be. That's fair. Understand, not everyone wants to understand.
I don't get offended because I'm upfront straight away. I tell people that I'd love you to come on, but if you don't want to, I won't be offended. I understand it takes a lot to go on a podcast. You've done very well. You've been a very good guest. If if not Kieran, try Jason Walden from Main Pest Control. He's such a lovely bloke as well. I will. And if you listen guys, give me a message, the name, the names you just mentioned, give me a message. I'm booked. I'm booked. I'm right into bookings into I think we've got one date left in August.
I think it's proven quite popular, but it is. I'm not as far ahead as the beauties and beasties. They book three or four months ahead. They do. They're like really ahead because when they booked me for the dead animals episode, I'm sure it was at least two or three months. They asked me ahead of that. OK, if you like an episode, did you listen to that one? Yeah, yeah, I think I did get a couple of cans of beer and I just sit here and listen to. A lot of people listen to that one. It was an interesting one, but I did well, I think.
But it was, it was a fun conversation anyway. But yeah, thanks, Jason, for coming on. Yeah. No, thank you for having me. It's been great, so I'll end this stream everyone and next week I can't remember who's on next week, but I'll I will put it out. I will I will sort it all out and I'll I'll put a thumbnail up and everything and let everyone know I should know, but I just can't remember off off hand. I can't. So thanks for watching everyone and I'll be back next Tuesday. So thanks everyone for watching and I'll see you next week.
So right there we go. I'm just ending this stream now.
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