Pipe Blocker explained by the Creator & owner from ASK. Pest control!
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Pipe Blocker explained by the Creator & owner from ASK. Pest control!
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How did the pipe guard blocker come to be and is this your
product or is it something you work?
Is it your is it something you work in partnership with Rat
Pack for? Is it you're actually?
It's my product. Actually your product, yeah.
So it's a little company, you've got like a little company
yourselves. Is that is that how it works?
As pest control sales, that's it.
I just run inside my business. I've got a little workshop
downstairs in the garage and that's where I make.
So, so basically the other shops can sell them and it's just that
any shop can sell them if they want to, yeah.
Yeah, they come to me, but I'm trying to keep it to the pest
control industry, so I've got to give a big Chateau to Dave
Alsink from. Goodman.
And Howard, Fantastic. I know a lot of people got the
version 1, the basket units now, but I bought out the version 2
and the deluxe version, which are a lot more simpler, simpler
to make put together and simpler to use for the person who's
going to be using them. Especially because I was
thinking, I wasn't thinking about domestic customers really.
I was thinking about pest controllers because the way the,
the, the industry is going trying to use less pesticides,
it's rodenticides or anything like that.
So if there's anything we can reduce that, that's why I've
come up with this idea. That that was why you came, was
it, was it an idea you thought I could just use it my business or
was it an idea for I could sell, I could sell in silver pest
controllers as well? Or was it a mixture of both?
It was a mixture of both. It was about 12 years ago I came
up with the idea. OK.
When I worked for the local authority and I did pitch it to
Matt Taylor when he worked for Essex, Essex Pest Control
Products or something like that and nothing came of that.
So it's only re emerged since I've started my own company up.
So yeah, I was doing it for me more than anything because.
There we go people, there we go. It's on the screen now.
If you can see if you can see it, I'll.
Show you in a minute, but yeah, that's the version 1 model.
I got that off the Rat Pack, so that's where I grabbed it from.
Yeah, they'll be, they'll be discontinued soon version 2 and
the deluxe model out which were a lot easier and simple for the
pest controllers to use and to give them another steady income
as well. So these things will need
cleaning out on a regular basis, especially if you need living.
If you've got trees like I have got trees next to me house, they
will get blocked up. So you need to keep on top of
them and you can take it to service charge.
I do a few services for me customers and for the time you
spend doing them and the money you make, it's a no brainer.
It's a no brainer. So.
So yeah. It's nice.
It's something you, you actually make it, you make you make at
home. It's it's a.
Nice. And I've got another local
company involved as well in it. It's just just not just me.
I went and got a contract for a local metal pressing company and
I've been doing their pest control for about 3 years.
And I just went about six months ago, Seven months ago, I went to
delay who actually owns a factory and I said I made one up
with a version 2. I said is there any chance you
can press these out for me? And she goes, we'll see what we
can do for you, Jason. If we get a dime made-up, it's
going to cost you thousands, but we've got something, we will
have something in our factory that will make it close for you.
So the local company actually. Presses these dyes out for me.
So that's the that's the round version.
And they just they just slip into there.
It's. Very different to the version
I'm looking at on screen that is.
That's it, Yeah. And it's a lot simpler.
And then I've got square versions as well.
They they stamp out for me and the deluxe square versions,
which are a bit smaller in the normal square versions.
So I have to have them done as well.
So, so yeah. And I'll modify the round ones
to go into the round deluxe version.
OK. Oh, that's good.
That is, don't you're able to help you out.
Oh yeah, they've been, they've been fantastic.
They, I've got to admit they've every time I put an order in,
about a week later, I've had all these things stamped out.
That's. Nice.
It's a bit daunting sometime when you're starting up a new
venture because the amount of money you have to play into it
to start with. That's why I went to saw Dave L
Sink at Rat Pack. I had a trip up to Lincoln,
spent the night in Lincoln, met up with Howard at Rat Pack and
showed him and they said what a simple device that is, how
simple that no one's ever thought of that before.
Anything I've seen for things like that in America, they've
got a product you've seen it called the Gutter Gate, just
opens the Gutter Gate, but that's the only other thing I've
seen. But I don't think they're
available here anyway. But these are even simpler.
Does it just slot in? Does it just slot in to the?
Yeah, the the deluxe version actually come with fitting
instructions. This works just as well for the
for the round ones and the square ones exactly the same.
So they come with fitting instructions and it gives you
the size you have to cut out. OK.
So. That's easy enough to do, but
the new, the new deluxe wit, he can't get up there.
He's not getting up there. Tell you what I like though.
You put a poster off someone that was using them.
Oh, no, no, sorry. Not someone uses someone that
managed to catch a rat going up on your tail.
Yeah, he's good. He's good.
They'll let you use it to promote the.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that pest control company
is absolutely fantastic. I can't remember his name off
here, but he he was a nice man. It's hard to capture a photo
like that, isn't it? It.
Is there is a few actually on the Internet?
OK. Were they going up?
And they do travel up drain pipes, rainwater drain pipes,
they. Do I can't?
Remember, what's the countries? There was a company, I can't
remember who it was, that actually had a video.
They set the camera, but it showed you how quickly the rat
could have down them. Yeah, I can't remember who it
was, but someone you, you see, the rat was straight down.
It was, yeah, the old alley just does supply, don't it?
Like a rat of the drain poker. Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, this is the don't know where the good lights on there
or not, but that's the that's the deluxe model.
Yeah. This comes in two parts.
So you've got two parts of it. You cut your part out, your,
your drain pipe sits in there, your other drain pipe sits
there. And the way you clean these out
is just by turning them. So that's you just open them up
and clean them out. Simple, simple product.
Simple product. That's a good product that is.
And with these you have to take the drain pipe back apart again.
But I do glue these in these metal pieces.
But if you. Bit of soapy water to wash them
out, or you can bang that out if you want to if it's perfectly
back in afterwards and that's going nowhere once the pipes are
in place. So.
You get nothing up there. Adam Xbox is is is you just put
I've always, I've always used mesh to take the bracket off and
fit under the clips. But that is a great bit of kit.
He just said he's quite impressive with it.
Yeah, yeah. And that's the the square
version. Now the only difference between
the square version and the round version is you can't squat, you
can't twist a square. So.
These come with actual front 4 screws on screw there they come
off, but these ones have to be fully glued on the inside.
So these are all glued in the inside and that's not going
nowhere. There's nothing getting up
through that. So yeah.
So that's like a compression fit one in there.
That's good. Yeah, it does look good.
Is it is it just Rat Pack that sells them or is there anyone
else anywhere else that sells them?
You'll have to wait and see. I like that you have to wait and
see, but they are. You can't currently get the
blockers that are on screen a rat pack, can't you?
Yeah, you can get them. They'll be they'll be getting
the version twos in and the deluxe version soon hopefully.
What was it like, you know, when you were standing on the stand
with Dave Helgerson from Rat Pack at the was it the BPCA?
Yeah. Is that what you were doing,
showing people the blocker? Yeah, did.
You get good feedback off people.
Fantastic. Everyone was fantastic on the
stand because I actually made Dave up a little stand of where
it works itself, the Rat Pack, and I thought I'll make myself
1. So I got it in the shed, put
some drain pipe together, put some things together and I was
just showing that off on. The stool, yeah.
Yeah, it works there. It fits in.
Yeah. It's like these, these ones
here, you, you actually cut the pipe to fit it in.
A lot of people are asking how how much pipe do you cut?
And it's that much, just over a centimetre depends on if the
pipe moves down in the ground or not.
If the pipe moves down in the ground, you don't have to cut
anything out. You can just slot it back in.
Well, yeah, they're they're really easy to fit.
They're really easy to fit with a vibrating saw, an oscillating
saw. Yeah.
Yeah, so get yourself a living. You always say though, with a
good business you need to solve a problem and there you are,
you've solved the problem. Just a simple problem as well,
because when when you see people put in big screws through drain
pipes and you think cross above that looks horrible.
That looks horrible. Well.
Yeah. Especially if you if you go to
some posh hoses, they don't want to see screws going through the
drain. Pipes.
They don't, no. No, yeah.
But yeah, they come in various colours, the black, white, white
and brown for the circle and the same for the square deluxe
models. The the round ones do come off
in anthracite, anthracite and grey as well as white, black and
brown. Well.
There's a few colours there as well because obviously different
drain pipes are, there's a few different colours in there.
So it's good that you've got the different colours, the match,
because you have a black, black pipe with a white bottom.
I mean, it's only, wouldn't it but.
It would. It would, yeah.
It would, it would. But yeah, no, it's hopefully
after this podcast or when I put it out, you're, you'll see an
UPS. You never know, you could see an
upsurge in sales for these because it's.
Quite lovely. OK, I will make also make the AI
makes little clips, but I, I might actually put out and that
do you know the section where of this podcast where you're
talking about this product? And I'll put it out as a
separate piece as well. I think it's overcompressed.
I have been mainly through other podcasts.
You're like certain subjects. If someone doesn't want to watch
the entire podcast, they can watch a certain section.
I need to do it with more of them because I've noticed like
when I did the one with Jasmine, she was talking about EFK units
and a lot of the misinformation going about when I when I, when
I clicked it up, they've done very well, just same sections.
So I will do that for this block pipe blocker and the, and the
wasp bit and the yeah, it will be good.
That will be. But yes, it's been, it's been
good learning about the pipe blocker because I was, I was, I
was thinking to myself, I'm not going to ask him before the
podcast, but I was thinking it was a, it was a rat pack product
and you were just a designer. I got it all wrong.
I got it all. Wrong.
No, no, I had the I had the gumption to go up and actually
see David. I can't, like I say, I can't
thank Rat Pack enough for helping me out.
And they're the ones who who gave me the push to go and do it
because I've never done nothing like that before.
And actually going up to to Lincoln as an experience and
walking around the factory, I've always loved mechanical
engineering and things like that.
So it was good for him to give me a walk around the factory and
the powder coating factory as well.
Yeah, yeah, you've got a powder coat you want.
I actually went under Lincoln. I think that's where I did my
course, the RSPH level to award investor management management.
But I didn't go. I've never actually because it
was in a hotel. I obviously drove back each day
because he's not that far off of me and I never went to the.
I never thought about driving up to Rat Pack to have a look round
because I'm sure David just showed me around.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Go and have a coffee with him if
he's there. Oh, it's a good, it's a good
blow. When we when we need baked
boxes, anything like that, we give Dave a call and he always
sorts us out. Yeah, yeah.
He does. He's bent over backwards since
I've started my business up because you have to learn how to
trust people a lot more. And because Dave was a new
supplier to me, I trust him for the first two or three years,
got to know him, got friendly and that's the way we started.
And soon as I've made this product, I thought I know where
I'm going to try and sell it first.
I'm going to give Dave, Dave and Rat Pack the idea, see if they
can get me started on it. And they did.
And again, can't, can't thank him enough.
I'll tell him I'll be messaging Dave tomorrow.
You better listen to this podcast.
Yeah, yeah. You get mentioned, you better
play it in the office. But just watch it, just just see
what happens next on the next section, All right?
So just keep an eye out for that.
Hopefully it's exciting news for me.
Any episode, I'm all light up for it.
So. So yeah.
It sounds good, but Adam Edwards, I think you're correct.
The the video I've seen with the rat going down the pipe was
marked marked health from from tornado.
That's. It that was.
A good. One yeah.
Tornado. Yeah.
He's right, but it was. But yeah, no exciting things
with the with the pipe guard blocker.
Yeah, pipe guard rat blocker. So, yeah, thanks for coming on.
Been a conversation. It's it's yeah, it's been
interesting. It's been been interesting
learning especially about always like things that like you don't
expect to talk about and they come up like I didn't expect.
But you actually removed the actual next.
I thought I'll ask him how he actually does it.
So if anyone else is listening to this podcast and they want to
try to actually remove it, they've got all the info on how
to give. It a no or just or just give me
a call. I don't mind just just find me
number. I don't mind talking you through
it. It's it's you've got to do it
safely. You you a decent full face mask.
If nothing else, you you safety first before anything else.
It's. True.
If you don't feel comfortable in doing it, don't do it.
So don't even go nowhere near it.
You've got to be comfortable in in that situation.
Going up to a nest and a good red light torch.
Yeah. Don't go into a loft with a
bright white light. Yeah, many.
Times I've seen that, yeah, yeah.
Always carry a nice little red torch with you in the loft.
Yeah, it's a good voice there. But yeah, thanks for coming on.
No, no. Thank you for having me.
And if there we go, Adam Edwards has been watching.
Thanks, Jason. Lovely guy.
Also, thumbs up. Cheers, Adam.
Cheers mate. Thank you.
Thanks for watching Adam Jasmine.
But yeah, thanks everyone. I just got to give two podcasts
a shout out now. Jenny was listening earlier.
She probably not now. Different time in America.
It is, but she's she's from the Pestogen podcast with Candy.
So please check out their podcast.
If you want to check out their it's an American style podcast,
but it's good. There's also good friends, Jack
and Brad from tales from the crawl space 2 point O.
Now, if you like podcasts with where they've got funny stories
and gory stories and not some of the stories are anonymous.
That is a fun podcast. It can get gory.
They can I think Brad has actually stepped over a dead
body to get to a job. He was following an ambulance in
a certain block he was in and it was the only way of getting
past. So he had to do it, you know,
but it but it's a it's a very good podcast.
They're nice blokes and obviously if you watch the
beauties and beasties that they're a good podcast.
I'd just like to shout out other people that pensioners and.
Support us because before I even started this podcast, I actually
had a word with Sean on Nenblot. So what do you think?
Because says I've got five years experience in podcasting for I
wasn't that successful, but I didn't had fun doing gaming
podcasts, you know, getting video game podcasts and it says
I want to do it in pest control. And they were very supportive.
They were like, I won't be on the same night as you.
I'll try and bring a slightly different twist.
I will. Although I do ask questions.
Some questions may be similar, but some may be different
questions they haven't thought of.
But yeah, they were supportive since the start.
They were so and they would. And Sean was the one that helped
me get CPD for the podcast, for the beauties and beasties.
Not there for pest perspective, sorry, on the British Pest
Register because obviously it's his CPD scheme.
And I says, I says to him, do you really think it it's worth
it as well? People learn stuff and it's all
about learning. So as long as when you put it
into the scheme, you put what the learning points are for each
episode, then it's fine. Because every single podcast
you've, I've listened to, you learn something.
And that's the whole point of the podcast.
It's learning. And then obviously message to
BPCA Scott and asked him, he says, well, they can already do
it. They just need to put the name
in the podcast in what they learned, how long it was and and
you're good to go. Then I've applied for the basis
prompt and I've been successful. That took a few weeks to to sort
out. But there's 10 codes out there.
People go through the previous episodes and you'll see it in a
description. You will.
But but yeah, thanks for watching everyone.
If you got this, have you got anyone that you'd like to see on
this podcast that you'd think will go on the podcast?
Because I know I do ask people and I fully, I tell you to them,
I won't be offended if you don't want to come on because when
you're on the podcast, you are putting yourself out there.
So have you got anyone you think would come on the podcast or
you'd like to see on one? I'm interested.
It's only because of the inmates, gamekeeping sides and
all that. Kieran Casper Sampler seen
somewhere on the thing on this. I love to see him on here.
IA 100% agree I. Think I'd.
Have to bring him. Yeah, or Jason Walden from AIM
Pest Control in the Black Country, Denny, Birmingham Way
and that way on see that perspective of it or WS Pest
Control, something like that as well.
But there are a few West Midland pest controllers I know like
Tony Adams from First Call Pest Management.
He's lovely bloke as well. Kieran Casper, I would love to
love to see his intake on this as well.
I definitely will get him on because we, I have, I have
talked to him about about him coming on, but I reckon I'm
going to have to ring his actual mobile because when I ring him
on Facebook, he hasn't answered. But maybe he doesn't know it's
me because I've changed my account to Sean will have pest
control because too many people are getting my main 1.
So I swapped it over to a different 1.
So but yes, that is a very good shout.
I do want to get him on. So Kieran, you're watching.
I want you to come on, get hold of me.
I will get hold of you. But yes, I will have a look into
the other people and see if they're willing to come on.
They may not be. That's fair.
Understand, not everyone wants to understand.
I don't get offended because I'm upfront straight away.
I tell people that I'd love you to come on, but if you don't
want to, I won't be offended. I understand it takes a lot to
go on a podcast. You've done very well.
You've been a very good guest. If if not Kieran, try Jason
Walden from Main Pest Control. He's such a lovely bloke as
well. I will.
And if you listen guys, give me a message, the name, the names
you just mentioned, give me a message.
I'm booked. I'm booked.
I'm right into bookings into I think we've got one date left in
August. I think it's proven quite
popular, but it is. I'm not as far ahead as the
beauties and beasties. They book three or four months
ahead. They do.
They're like really ahead because when they booked me for
the dead animals episode, I'm sure it was at least two or
three months. They asked me ahead of that.
OK, if you like an episode, did you listen to that one?
Yeah, yeah, I think I did get a couple of cans of beer and I
just sit here and listen to. A lot of people listen to that
one. It was an interesting one, but I
did well, I think. But it was, it was a fun
conversation anyway. But yeah, thanks, Jason, for
coming on. Yeah.
No, thank you for having me. It's been great, so I'll end
this stream everyone and next week I can't remember who's on
next week, but I'll I will put it out.
I will I will sort it all out and I'll I'll put a thumbnail up
and everything and let everyone know I should know, but I just
can't remember off off hand. I can't.
So thanks for watching everyone and I'll be back next Tuesday.
So thanks everyone for watching and I'll see you next week.
So right there we go. I'm just ending this stream now.
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