Donβt Work For Free In Mole Control!
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In this clip from Pest Perspectives Podcast EP46, Shaun Muller is joined by Andrew McDonald from UK uk puntage Supplies to talk about starting out in mole control the right way.
From practical training and learning in the field, to why doing work for free can devalue the trade, this is an honest chat about pricing, confidence, making mistakes, and respecting the skill behind professional mole catching.
If youβre new to mole control, thinking about adding it to your pest business, or already out there catching moles, this one is well worth a listen.
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okay yes um so someone say someone was just start out in mold control not know anything what would you what would you advise them to do or how to learn or what would be your advice so everyone's going to have their own opinions of it but me personally i would suggest someone to jump onto the some of the facebook pages and ask questions read through things that have already been posted before you start asking the same question that's been asked a million times go and search for it what you want to know do you can go and do some form of course on it like i say alan jones does a phenomenal course and it's a practical course it's not sitting there writing out paperwork and not learning actually how to do the job i have seen courses where i'm not going to say who does this where you're doing it a bucket of mud yeah you're not you're not you're not you're you're gonna learn something don't get me wrong but with the one alan does you're in the field come rain snow sleet sun it doesn't matter you're in the field doing some of his current jobs you go to basically so jobs he's got on or there's there's if he's not got like if he's some of them be just a farm where he maybe doesn't do that he's not got a job on but they he'll just take
you to that farm that he's he's spoken to the farmer say and and we go into these fields or whatever um and you'll learn how to read mole runs correctly where to set traps how to set traps using talpex claws scissors tangs tunnels whatever you want he show you how to do it all pro how And it sounds silly but if you don know how to probe properly you know things like that i can all help and because you in the field doing the doing the job it's the best way to learn and he's all you go on the course and everything and he's always there for backup so six months down the line you're really confused send him a message he'll help you you know he's one of the nicest guys out there for that and he's passionate and dedicated about it but yeah that's definitely what I would say get yourself set up with some traps and spade, probe and set off about it that way Say someone has an action, or say they don't do the course first would you say because you don't know what you're doing, would you like to say to someone offer it for free just to give it a go?
No No no i'm just thinking of somebody who's never done it before like yeah i know but the best way to the best way to learn is make mistakes so if you're putting and a lot of people will disagree with this but i i personally do not agree with doing your work for free so if you i'm just a stupid suggestion no it's not stupid it's just there's a lot of people though it's same as like sadly there is people doing for free yeah and people will do it they'll do the moles on your farm for the shooting permissions and you know all this sort of stuff and then it's like that's fine but then when something you know so just for an example let's say you do the mole control on a farm for someone because you want the shooting or something and then you decide that you don want to shoot there or or he says to the farmer says to you oh I got moles I got moles and you go off nah and he says well i not i not giving you the shooting anymore you know and you say fine that fine whatever so you leave that place he's then got to find someone else to come in and do it whereas you're you're letting that farmer down you know or that whoever it may be but it's just i i just don't i don't agree with it personally and that's just my own opinion i don't think no i
I didn't mean in general, I just spent it. This is your first time ever doing it. Practice. Like if you've got, if you've got some interest, you've probably on, you probably got some permissions on a farm or something. Anyway, you could practice there and do things like that. And you know, I fully agree with you. It devalues the mole catching industry because in general, I have been to some farms where I shouldn't have gone and he wanted, I'm not into this, but he wanted five pounds a mole. When you only pay, I only pay when you catch a mole.
But that's fine. That Β£5 a mole, that's fine if you're going to go and catch 700 moles on it. Oh, yeah. But, you know, it's one of these things. And it varies the price. And this is a thing that pops up all the time. How do you price your jobs? How do you price your jobs? I would never ask that to you. It depends where you are and what part of the country. Exactly. There's so many variables to it. You've got to price what either fits into the market in your area or what you have to make to make a living.
You know, it's not a, mole catching is, it's hard work. And yes, it can be lucrative, but it's hard on your body as well. Like you look at folk who been doing it for a long time ask every one of them how your fingers How your knees How your back they all tell you sore you know it just it not I don know how else to describe it to be totally honest but you need to price what you have to charge charge what you're worth charge your worth 100% but sadly a lot of domestic customers I've had a couple of them before think that what you're charging me that but you're just putting a mole trap in the garden feel free to have a go yourself if you they bought me 50 pound all in no no no exactly that's it and if you're like say have a go yourself i hate it when they have a go themselves because i always have a laugh educated moles cost more that's what i say because if you've got a mole that's trapped shy good luck because that was what i went to one job once i said i turned up there and i said how long has this been going on oh and a few months just come on tell me the real truth i need to know well about a year i've been trying to do it myself but the weird thing i found was he's using them scissors right but i said to him what's the carrots for he was putting attaching little carrots to them all for the moles i don't eat carrots
i said yeah i know this is the thing he literally destroyed his garden they've literally destroyed his garden i said well google said this google said but i said that's like but to be fair though i said google's normally to be fair if i googled it now he would not say they eat carrots i don't
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